Lard Lips Liquor

Comments from leaked YouTube version of Cans Without Labels;  comments copied for posterity 6/23/19 9:13PM eastern.   I didn't copy the like versus dislike count but it was overwhelmingly negative.
comments: 157 Comments . Link had been https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7kVAkGW6M

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Blu John
Blu John
8 minutes ago
Some people backed this....
Well, some people like to spend their money on stupid things. Like that piece of shit Mighty Number 9.
What a waste
AlexTheSavior
AlexTheSavior
23 minutes ago (edited)
The 130,000$ could've been used to have an actual (not stock) music score and increased production/cgi quality that could've been worth the money spent.

But this reeks of old, outdated messy shit with no depth. And it's fucking 2019. I absolutely blame John K for making the final result look like this.
Xavier Monsivais
Xavier Monsivais
31 minutes ago
-Poor sound design
-Poor sound choices
-Repeated/Reused Frames: 1:29 and 3:29
-Horrible Humor
-11 Minutes Long
-John K.'s Passion Project.


I don't know whether to be sad for the old legend who made this, feel that this was expected, or angry that people pledged to this video. It's horrible to watch and boring all together. I would say the animation is what makes the vid, but I don't know what's wrong with it. It looks very, very off to me. Feels like some moments are traditional and others feel like motion tweens. It's such an off mix to me. And the voice overs are fine, would be better if the audio quality was better. But other than that, they're fine. Good work from the voice actors and all.
siskavard
siskavard
34 minutes ago
Everytime a person watches this they lose 7 years off of their life
dead
dead
50 minutes ago (edited)
It looks decent (LOOKS, NOT THE AUDIO )
AxeToday
AxeToday
51 minutes ago
I......feel this is much more a disturbing look into John’s psyche than it is a proper cartoon.
BoxToons
BoxToons
1 hour ago
Someone download this before John K flags ya!
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sonikku956
sonikku956
1 hour ago
This is apparently based on John's childhood. His dad used to buy cans without labels all the time because he was a cheapskate. Makes me wonder if he was physically abusive too.
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Alex Acosta
Alex Acosta
1 hour ago
Buying unlabeled cans sounds pretty disgusting.
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trewqwert
trewqwert
1 hour ago
Take a shot every time an unfitting sound effect plays. Guess what? You’ll be dead before the 2nd min mark.
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Guacamole Nightmare TV
Guacamole Nightmare TV
2 hours ago
Take a shot for every glaring continuity error.
Paradox Messenger
Paradox Messenger
2 hours ago
John K is the VALVe of cartoons, except he has no redeeming qualities.
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fdrdevotee
fdrdevotee
2 hours ago
That music... it's all stock public domain music. I don't think I heard a single musical sting that I didn't recognize from somewhere else.
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MrQuirkyKirk
MrQuirkyKirk
1 hour ago
It's John K attempting to go "Hey? Remember this from Ren and Stimpy?"

Almost every aspect of the short is like this, attempting a sort of "quality through familiarity," and it always fails.

John K got all his money through the public perception of the "fun-hating executive" known only for cancelling things, and this shows how false that perception is. When an executive, or anyone in show-business says "no" to something, there's always a reason for it. There are more reasons than I can count here.
KarliCartoons
KarliCartoons
3 hours ago
John K is a miserable pedophile piece of shit, and this fact alone will remain infamous among the animation community for years to come.
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Dedenne Cheese
Dedenne Cheese
3 hours ago
Honestly the animation is pretty good, but the fact that all of this took 7 years is fucking unacceptable
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Teddy Furstman
Teddy Furstman
3 hours ago (edited)
Love Ren and Stimpy but Screw John K for all I care. >:( This Short is terrible! He's a horrible person now.
blujay
blujay
3 hours ago
they finished it
Mitchell Hang
Mitchell Hang
3 hours ago (edited)
I want my 11:14 back
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MyAverageName
MyAverageName
3 hours ago
As much as I love exaggerated cartoons, this is just so overly exaggerated that it hurts to look at.
Gabriel Schleifer
Gabriel Schleifer
3 hours ago
There are, at best, two good shots in this short.


My incomplete SVA thesis film looks better than this.


On the plus side, I'm glad I could watch this without having to give that motherfucker a single dime.
Nathaniel Foga
Nathaniel Foga
3 hours ago
Wasn't the 7 year long wait worth it 😁👌
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Denzel Crocker
Denzel Crocker
4 hours ago
Well now I can understand why Billy West had a terrible experience with John.
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Joshua Salas
Joshua Salas
4 hours ago
Holy shit that was awful. I'm glad I only gave John a buck. Can't believe it took seven years to make this.
Michael Strong
Michael Strong
4 hours ago
I think a character from Ren & Stimpy put it best regarding my thoughts about this short:





No sir, I don't like it.
The G-Wing
The G-Wing
4 hours ago
Wait so is this John's actual YouTube channel?
StarBot
StarBot
2 hours ago
No
The G-Wing
The G-Wing
52 minutes ago
@StarBot good. Just means i can take out vitriol even more
Cory In The Pussy
Cory In The Pussy
5 hours ago
Lol fuck john AND Ren and stimpy
Roney Andrade
Roney Andrade
5 hours ago
Someone said that most youtubers could do something better a million times fater well that person was not that far off.
He took 7 years to this shit and if we divide 7 years by 10 000 we get  153 days. Think about how pathetic that is.
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Tabascofanatikerin
Tabascofanatikerin
5 hours ago
Wow....just wow....
First the good stuff: Robyn Byrd's and Katie Rice's names aren't in the credits (good for them!) and I did not pay a single cent for this crap.
The bad stuff? Everything else. What the heck?
I had more joy by watching that "Goddamn George Liquor Program" thingy and that was a flash movie and not taking many years (I guess) and the cash of supporters.

John K., again, shot himself in the foot by somehow making this mess. He had potential but looking at his newest work (come on, amateur animators everywhere make better stuff faster!), his puzzling unreliability and at his revealed desire for and manipulation of teenage girls just hurts and would make me stay faaaaaaar away from John K. if I was a producer looking for cartoonists making cartoons for me. Seriously.
Riley O' Riley
Riley O' Riley
5 hours ago
People are disliking this even though John K. wasn't even the one that posted it.
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MrQuirkyKirk
MrQuirkyKirk
1 hour ago
It's to reflect the quality of the short.
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Xord
Xord
1 hour ago
the uploader probably doesn't care since they insulted it in the description
tank butt
tank butt
5 hours ago
I watched this while taking a shit and i lost the urge to shit


I have felt such a horrible thing ever.


I don't wish the same fate on anyone
Tricia S.
Tricia S.
5 hours ago
Too many spongebob sound effects, really bad animation and quality, lots of cussing, this is plain terrible
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SSEmery
SSEmery
2 hours ago
SpongeBob sound effects?
Tricia S.
Tricia S.
1 hour ago
@SSEmery Yeah
Mayor Mcchesse
Mayor Mcchesse
1 hour ago
ya know that none of those sfx was made specifically for spongebob right?
Tricia S.
Tricia S.
28 minutes ago
@Mayor Mcchesse Oh. OOF
Isaiah Productions
Isaiah Productions
5 hours ago
So bad, just awful

jesus christ
being of habits
being of habits
5 hours ago
Oh, gosh. I can't even force myself to give it a try. The "camera" is done sooo freaking wrong, so I can't focus on everything else
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Neil The Memer
Neil The Memer
5 hours ago
This had potential at times, the cat scene nearly had me cracking up. But God, everything else...
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JasonJacksonJames
JasonJacksonJames
5 hours ago
wtf this was an ad for shimmy shack all along ????
Mio Man X
Mio Man X
5 hours ago
Seven years and $136,723 later:
Horrible audio splicing, jerky awful animation, amateur camera angles, backgrounds that STILL look unfinished, and not a single joke lands.
Absolutely fucking unbelievable.
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Sour Birdy
Sour Birdy
5 hours ago
Some of this is good simply for that John K style of writing and animation, but most of it just stinks. The biggest problem is how awful the camera angles are, its always just moving and sliding all over the shots, and paired with how some animations are done, just screams "THIS IS FLASH!". It's also more jarring comparing this to the rough animation which had better shots and coloring.


8:44 is probably the biggest showcase of all these problems.
Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
5 hours ago
Nah, 9:38 is the worst.
Eska Moe
Eska Moe
5 hours ago
What was with that Shimmy Shack thing at the end? Is it a real thing? It had nothing to do with the short and came out of nowhere
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spud25
spud25
1 hour ago
I feel like he tried to do a callback to ren & stimpy how’d there be fake ads after an episode except with ren and stimpy you’d know it was fake and was actually funny
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Eska Moe
Eska Moe
55 minutes ago
spud25 Just looked it up, apparently it’s a real thing that’s been going on in Michigan for a few years now (makes sense considering how long it took for this trash heap of a cartoon to be finished) John K designed the mascot and for some reason decided to place an ad for it in a $25 dvd that only ten people and a bunch of disappointed Kickstarter backers will own. The place gets good reviews though
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Connor Hos
Connor Hos
5 hours ago
There's some cool visual ideas in this but the shitty pacing and camera make this physically unwatchable.
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BoxToons
BoxToons
1 hour ago
I agree, it even had cool shapes, facial movements, and color transitions every now and then. But the writing is bare bones at best! Plus the gags dragged on too long lol
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Tabascofanatikerin
Tabascofanatikerin
5 hours ago
Not to mention the unnecessary and ugly 3D inputs.
Guacamole Nightmare TV
Guacamole Nightmare TV
6 hours ago
This short is extremely over animated yet motionless and lazy at the same time somehow.
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Eska Moe
Eska Moe
6 hours ago
The child molesting mofo finally finished it


and this is what we got
red lobster cheese biscuits
red lobster cheese biscuits
6 hours ago
lol loser spent 7 years making this garbo cmon slowpoke quit wasting time and just go to jail already
Jeeper
Jeeper
6 hours ago
Good lord this is awful.
Luigi Epic
Luigi Epic
6 hours ago
I didn’t even laugh once and he spent SEVEN YEARS on this?
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ChrisTehMii
ChrisTehMii
6 hours ago
John K was never caught...
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Sausage
Sausage
6 hours ago
Damn you can really see the production value in this
Connor 64
Connor 64
6 hours ago (edited)
140,000 dollars.
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RyGuy900The2nd
RyGuy900The2nd
6 hours ago
No refunds
Kevin Martinez
Kevin Martinez
7 hours ago (edited)
For 25+ years, John K. has espoused that meddling executives are the only reason he couldn't succeed in Hollywood. He was fired from Ren and Stimpy because of executives, and all of his projects have gone down in flames because of executives.

He gets almost 150 grand to make a cartoon, directly from the fans, WITH NO EXECUTIVES WHATSOEVER, and this is what we get.

As I said elsewhere, if Bob Camp did a kickstarter, it would have been finished on time and actually been good.
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Cup Døødles
Cup Døødles
7 hours ago
To all the 3,562 ppl who supported this clown, you have my condolences.
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Julia 713
Julia 713
7 hours ago (edited)
Most animation YouTubers can do a million times better with a quarter of the budget and crew members, and could get it out a million times faster


On a side note the camera movements/animation itself and its timing pisses me off
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The Real Eh See
The Real Eh See
7 hours ago (edited)
To everybody that pledged their hard-earned money to support a unfinished, pathetic, poorly-made piece of shit made by a Fucking Predator, my heart go out to all of you....

I hope to god that this is the last we see of Micheal John Kricfalusi.
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Juan44444 Gomez4444
Juan44444 Gomez4444
6 hours ago
Did it not worth the wait not worth it I to worth it Star online 2
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TappyTheTapster
TappyTheTapster
7 hours ago
Where's the comedy?
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Pleo, The crap artist
Pleo, The crap artist
7 hours ago
I’m sorry this took, HOW MANY years?
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S.Y.U.20
S.Y.U.20
7 hours ago
The art style and character animation look great, but that's about it.
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Julia 713
Julia 713
7 hours ago (edited)
I actually think the character animation goes waaaayy too overboard , if it was dialed back a little it would look great
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PappyWappy43
PappyWappy43
7 hours ago
What's funny about daddy issues?
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tank butt
tank butt
5 hours ago
J k would rather make shitty cartoons then work on thoae issues
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Sammy Boy
Sammy Boy
7 hours ago
I....guess I can see why longtime fans of Ren and Stimpy would enjoy this, but it's not my cup of tea.
Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
7 hours ago
I think even that's a massive stretch.
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spud25
spud25
1 hour ago
I love ren & stimpy, even the post spumco episodes and this is utter dog shit
Juan44444 Gomez4444
Juan44444 Gomez4444
8 hours ago
It is not worth the wait  trash garbage
TheCartoonZone
TheCartoonZone
8 hours ago
Let's see...
>Timing feels a bit off compared to the unfinished version
>the animation doesnt look like 7 years worth of work
>The coloring randomly changes for no apparent reason
>The camera is going fucking bananas, I think John molested it before shooting the film
>This is what 100k dollars went to
There's web animators that have made much better stuff in a shorter amount of time with little to no money.

Seriously though, watch the unfinished cut. If is way better than this. Such a shame.
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Raybanjo
Raybanjo
8 hours ago
Everyone, pirate the hell out of this.  Please. Dont give John K a fucking cent. He's a pedo.
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Bitmap Studios
Bitmap Studios
8 hours ago
Wow, this sucks ass
PowerLoud Girl
PowerLoud Girl
8 hours ago
My deepest and sincerest apologies to everyone who backed this travesty.
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Raidon Chrome
Raidon Chrome
8 hours ago
You guys are ripping on that cartoon, but it is really good and well animated, I'm glad it exists
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NicDoesDumbThings
NicDoesDumbThings
8 hours ago
Are you blind by any chance
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Raidon Chrome
Raidon Chrome
7 hours ago
@NicDoesDumbThings You tell me where else do you get this style of animation where most frames are manually drawn without using Flash or similar stuff to articulate
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Spark-Flow Studios
Spark-Flow Studios
6 hours ago
@Raidon Chrome The Mighty B, Spongebob, Storycorps, or any animation house with people who worked on Ren & Stimpy and still work in the industry.
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Spark-Flow Studios
Spark-Flow Studios
6 hours ago
And I can PROMISE you there are frames being moved automatically in this.
TAR HEAD
TAR HEAD
9 hours ago
Caca
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Hex
Hex
9 hours ago
How did someone manage to make a cartoon with no comedic timing what so ever?
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spud25
spud25
1 hour ago
He also missed an oppurtunity to add something that would be half funny where the face turned out to be their reflections
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BoxToons
BoxToons
2 hours ago
Hex by dragging on the gags for far too long that’s how.
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Duke Mations
Duke Mations
9 hours ago
Can someone tell me what’s with the hate? I never heard of this kick starter in project
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Grand MasterBox
Grand MasterBox
9 hours ago (edited)
This was a project started back in 2012, by a "professional" animator known as john K. He recieved 136,000 dollars on kickstarter to make this short 11 minute cartoon and took 7 years to do it.

If you know anything about animation, you would know that this money would warrant animation 10 times better than this, and would've taken less than 7 years, for a cartoon that's literally 11 minutes long, which is around the length of like 2 good sized flash animations.

John K literally just took people's money, and then lazily put together a cartoon so he couldn't get sued by his backers. It was a scam and a half by an animator who's notorious for making excuses for his laziness.

For 7 years of work it looks like something a college animation student could whip up in about 6 months
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Duke Mations
Duke Mations
9 hours ago
Grand MasterBox Ok. This dude is a Fucking asshole.
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Jacob Hewett
Jacob Hewett
6 hours ago
Duke Mations He's also an admitted pedophile
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Spartan Dash
Spartan Dash
9 hours ago
starving african B A B I E S
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PatriZio Leonardo Risco Chero
PatriZio Leonardo Risco Chero
7 hours ago
John K's tralala stands up
lb8068
lb8068
9 hours ago
Fucking what
Miguel Contreras
Miguel Contreras
9 hours ago
People did better shit than this in newgrounds over a decade ago FOR FREE
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FrilledMayfly
FrilledMayfly
10 hours ago
Thanks, this is an insult to animation
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David Gromak
David Gromak
2 hours ago
FrilledMayfly I think this dethroned The Emoji Movie as an insult to animation.
BlythePennyBicycle21
BlythePennyBicycle21
10 hours ago
This is terrible. If I could, I would give everyone their money back.
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Juan44444 Gomez4444
Juan44444 Gomez4444
7 hours ago
I need to send it to DJ slope send it to Kickstarter scanner
Red Joestar
Red Joestar
10 hours ago
Okay... We all waited 7 years for it.
And this... This is what we got.



Fuck Off, John K!.
Derpy McSquire
Derpy McSquire
10 hours ago (edited)
Wow that was painful
Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
11 hours ago
BTW I want to also point out that John copyright claimed every existing copy of the... let's call it a "workprint".


He does have a right to do that, but still.
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Oni Puck
Oni Puck
11 hours ago
This was painful to sit through.
There didn't seem to be any quality control, and the actual story was the worst kind of gross-out humor, bland.
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Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
11 hours ago
What the hell is up with the camera? Did someone use Sony Vegas's stabilization tool on this?


At least in the unfinished cut, there was legitimate control in that aspect. Here, I think I'm suffering from sensory overload.
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Fernie Fernandez
Fernie Fernandez
10 hours ago
It was done by ToonBoom.
Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
10 hours ago
@Fernie Fernandez Actually, according to the opening credits, this was edited in After Effects.
Rainbow Doodler209
Rainbow Doodler209
12 hours ago (edited)
7 years was wasted onto this...and it still looks bad too.
Shell Shock
Shell Shock
12 hours ago
when something is so bad it becomes modern art
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DeMoN
DeMoN
12 hours ago
5:05 all my thoughts about this movie
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Ilya Bolgorodov
Ilya Bolgorodov
12 hours ago
Wow, I literally can see every cent!
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Julia 713
Julia 713
7 hours ago
Heh, can
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Love Train
Love Train
13 hours ago
Cans without labels took seven years to be made, seven years, that half a decade plus two
IT BROKE NEW  GROUND
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Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
11 hours ago
I think even the Thief and the Cobbler made more progress in that time.
Fernie Fernandez
Fernie Fernandez
10 hours ago
Toon4Thought Not unless you add controversy to that...
Pasteloween
Pasteloween
13 hours ago
What the FUCK
Chuckles 2
Chuckles 2
13 hours ago
7 Y E A R S
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Red Joestar
Red Joestar
10 hours ago
I hate every single second of this...
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axiler joshep garcia cruz
axiler joshep garcia cruz
13 hours ago
Está horrible y no en el buen seentido de como era ren y stimpi
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Red Joestar
Red Joestar
10 hours ago
Nos hizo esperar 7 años por esta cosa.
Ni la liga Kalos me decepcionó tanto. Digo, al menos eso sí se veía bien.
Dorkymations #
Dorkymations #
14 hours ago (edited)
The other cans have John's child pornography
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viikstinnian
viikstinnian
15 hours ago
This is so bad it's good. Fucking awful
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Suspicious Cactus
Suspicious Cactus
17 hours ago
I like the completely recycled shot at 3:29
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Julia 713
Julia 713
7 hours ago
Especially since This short had over $136,000 behind it
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GiantPurpleCat
GiantPurpleCat
17 hours ago
The camera and the backgrounds moved around as much as the characters did and it made this even more annoying to watch.
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Toon4Thought
Toon4Thought
11 hours ago
Pretty sure I got sensory overload from watching this.
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Fernie Fernandez
Fernie Fernandez
10 hours ago
GiantPurpleCat You should thank the ToonBoom program for that...
Rose Echidna
Rose Echidna
17 hours ago
Jesus Christ
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jojogggh
jojogggh
18 hours ago
Did... Did this take 7 YEARS TO MAKE?!?!?!
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corbenfan84
corbenfan84
18 hours ago
7 years and money wasted on this shit?
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Mr. Good Boi
Mr. Good Boi
18 hours ago
Now sit back and think about how 6 years were wasted on this rushed looking, swervy camera, choppily animated piece of ass. Then think about how 100,000 dollars were spent on this shit. This only proves John K. is one of the biggest hacks in animation.
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KnightofFunnyJunk
KnightofFunnyJunk
18 hours ago
>And all my wonderful donors on Kickstarter the same donors I was deliberately ripping off for years on end until you threatened me to refund all the money I wasn't spending on the animation and was instead wasting it on porn

John K your end result does not constitute the amount of bullshit that went into this project not only is the end result underwhelming it's almost embarrassing you thought you could almost get away with this with absolutely no negative reprecussions of your actions
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depressed cockroach
depressed cockroach
18 hours ago
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Dylan M Cartoonell
Dylan M Cartoonell
19 hours ago
HOLD STILL!!! WHY WONT THIS FUCKING CAMERA HOLD STILL?!
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Granle
Granle
19 hours ago
Definitely 7 years worth the wait guys
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ChrisTehMii
ChrisTehMii
6 hours ago
Hi
Alexander Clam Bell
Alexander Clam Bell
20 hours ago
This looks like actual shit
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Diego Altieres
Diego Altieres
20 hours ago
OMG that is sooooo wrong
Isaiah A.
Isaiah A.
20 hours ago
3,562 pledgers were molested to make this, poor people
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Cartoon Fluffle
Cartoon Fluffle
11 hours ago
Isaiah A. This was awful
C. Marion Green
C. Marion Green
20 hours ago (edited)
Somebody's career took a serious nosedive.
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Grand MasterBox
Grand MasterBox
20 hours ago
Oh, sick flash animation bro! I bet it took months to make! 


Fucking john k
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Blevins Entertainment
Blevins Entertainment
20 hours ago
mega ouch
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BrandaBob
BrandaBob
20 hours ago
Cans Without Dignity
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SuperSpindasher1991
SuperSpindasher1991
21 hours ago
The fuck did I just watch?
TrustyCranberry
TrustyCranberry
21 hours ago
True art.
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BoxToons
BoxToons
1 hour ago
TrustyCranberry you’re not wrong
orangetag001
orangetag001
22 hours ago
That was absolutely terrible. This Kickstarter launched in 2012.
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Fernie Fernandez
Fernie Fernandez
22 hours ago
I guess refurbishing and correcting the tone didn't work after all...!
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Fernie Fernandez
Fernie Fernandez
4 hours ago
Political Correctness...if that is to people now...!
Rothur The Paladin
Rothur The Paladin
22 hours ago (edited)
People paid for this.
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SuperSpindasher1991
SuperSpindasher1991
20 hours ago
Why do people still support John K in general? Are they as psycho as he is or just wanting to jerk it to nostalgia?
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Fernie Fernandez
Fernie Fernandez
20 hours ago
SuperSpindasher1991 I believe the payment was over before his secrets was exposed...
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Griff
Griff
22 hours ago
how many kids did john rape for this
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Grindhouse Radio
Grindhouse Radio
22 hours ago
3,562 backers pledged $136,723 to help bring this project to life." -Cans without Labels Kickstarter page
Let that sink in everyobdy
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Donnie Huynh
Donnie Huynh
22 hours ago
What the heck was that?
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AlexTheSavior
AlexTheSavior
29 minutes ago
5:07 "

Pour Some Sugar On Me

John K has hidden all comments on his Blog posts, so they're all fair game here. I'll highlight them when I find it wirthwhile to do so. Because even if they're hidden on Blogger, no comment is ever really gone.

(Pro tip: search for "13" in the below, then search for John's direct response to the 13 year old.)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180330012533/http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/02/calling-all-cool-girls.html 

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/02/calling-all-cool-girls.html

"Listen up!
I’ve teamed up with your favorite girl cartoonist, Katie Rice to create and help develop new cartoon shows-some of our own, and some shows that others have created that they need wonderfully funny and cute pictures to go with their stories.

WE NEED YOUR HELP DOING SOME MARKET RESEARCH!
Help Katie and I aid science.

We are showing you some preliminary character designs from a new show in development. It’s top secret, so we can’t tell you the name of it yet or what it’s about.

BUT we do want to know from all the girl cartoon fans in the world whether you would like to see a show that looks like this!



I’m sure you are tired of all the namby pamby, talk-down-to-you types of purple and pink shows where all the girls look exactly the same and all they think about is combing their hair and sharing all their material wealth with friends and getting along.

OUR theory for a girls’ show is to make all the girls look and act different-you know, like REAL LIFE???!

So all you guys who read this blog of mine, get your sisters, daughters and Moms and girlfriends to look at these designs of hot chicks done by Katie Godess Rice and tell us what you think in the comments.

(Extra game: try and guess who this gal is based on!)


I think I will make this a regular feature! I’ll preview new show ideas and if lots of you tell us you want to see these shows, then I will have proof for TV networks that you are dying for some real cartoons!



*****By the way-to make this market research completely scientific, please enter your age, sex, race and religion then tell us how you like the characters. Believe it or not that’s what TV people think they need to know, so let’s give it to ‘em, folks! And if you have shows, hire me and Katie to make them look good!

Thanks

John- "

"Rebecca said...

    Rebecca Sugar,
    Age: 18,
    Sex: female
    Religion: Jewish

    Oh god! I want to be in on this so badly! These character designs look fabulous, and i love the idea. Cartoons for girls suck, and I've been dreaming about making a not-sucking show with girl chars all through highschool.. Its a big part of why im in school learning to animate. I love the thought of you workin on a girl show, thats the stuff my dreams are made of! I'd only wish i could be a part of it!
    I LOVE the first design, especially the hair. A little iffy on the second girl.. the hair shines turn me off a bit, especially next to the other solid haired chars. But that sweet pose on the right side is fantastic. I love the solid hair with dark blue for black. The blonde is adorable, I also like that flip wig girl.
    I wish i knew more about their personalities/setting. I've always dreamed of making/seeing a girl character who's a schlub. Nothing is more adorable to me than girls in huge crappy t shirts..
    Oh, and here's my quickie katie holmes, i tried..
    http://www.skulltula.com/kicks/pictures/63.png "

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Rebecca said...

    Rebecca again... 18 female etc, I had to draw after looking at those chars. I'm just so giddy that you have a blog, and giddy over the prospect of these chars. So i whipped out some doodles of my favorite things on girls.. here are a few. I'm really new to cartooniness, I'm only a freshman and up till now i've been doing comics and paintings mostly, so these are kind of stiff and lame..
    (does linking work? Pics )
    well I'll write it in case it doesn't. http://www.    sugarboukas.  .com/sketches/  mompants.jpg
    Anyway.. I noticed the low rider theme in the pants-wearing characters. So I thought I'd speak up for some mom pants, them being one of my favorite things. I get a kick out of girls in old movies with those great high up pants around their wasp waists. Glasses also get a bad rap, i'd like to see some more glasses on girl chars.. they're extra handy and can accentuate expressions and add vulnerability, it's a shame people don't use glasses to their potential. (I loved Anthony's glasses in visit to Anthony. Nothing punches a point home like broken lenses.)
    And babushkas/bandanas look great, i think they'd look really great on Katie's characters, they're already rockin headbands, I love that!
    And that's all I've got on aesthetics."

"JohnK said...

    >>Why do all their bellybuttons and boobs and such have to be showing? They seem just like the characters you say you're rebelling against.

    believe me, I would never rebel against belly buttons or boobs.
    7:40 PM "

"Marlo Meekins said...

    i rikey the teef the best, fellas
    10:36 PM "

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Marlo Meekins said...

    P.S.

    age: 24 1/2
    sex: Girl
    race: Fire Crotch
    religion: Angry Athiest
    10:51 PM "

Here's something fro ma 13 year old:
"Maria said...

    name: Maria or Saphira if you prefer
    age: 13
    sex: female
    religion: no thanks

    Love the look of the characters..seems to be better than a lot of the crap that's out there now. What are your other ideas for the show? What kind of network are you thinking about pitching to? Well I'll look back latter..hopefully that is. BTW, love ren and stimpy, one of the best cartoons out there!
    8:58 AM "

Oh hey, John was nice enough to directly respond to her:
"JohnK said...

    >>Love the look of the characters..seems to be better than a lot of the crap that's out there now. What are your other ideas for the show?

    Unfortunately so far we can't talk about the stories or personalities yet. We have a network that is debating what kind of look for the show.

    We want to convince them to do it in Katie's style with all the characters having different designs instead of just looking generic as most cartoon girls look.

    Soon I will post another girl's show that we totally developed ourselves and get your input on that! We can tell you stories for our own stuff.

    Thanks thanks thanks
    10:27 AM "

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JohnK said...

    Hi Bobbie,

    the funny part is that pinky girl is based on Katie herself who is very smart, not bubble-headed at all.

    You should have read the description of the artist character that was given to us..."artistic rather than intelligent" !

    I guess you can only be one or the other. Well I ignored that one direction and said "let's base the artist character on you, Katie-smart and creative but wacky too."
    11:10 AM "

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[link to http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/your-pal-john-k.html?fbclid=IwAR1yAeAJ1KA3B-Tx3i2FIlwvpGn2T13_UMmauALe3_iF7d7QyNxS3_LQBBc ]
In 1998, an aspiring cartoonist wrote a letter to John Kricfalusi of "Ren and Stimpy" fame asking for advice. JohnK's response was truly sublime, inspirational stuff. See it here:
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Reuben Baron And if that aspiring cartoonist was a girl, that letter would have been a lot less "inspirational"...
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Ted Watts And since people always wonder what everyone's talking about when the issue gets raised, here's how that story worked if you were a young girl
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Francisco Ramiro De La Garza Alanis Its so creepy that also Rebecca Sugar could have been one of his victims (she used to post a lot on his blog asking for advice as a big fan)
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Matt Hunter And of course the letter closes with a drawing of Ren leering at a young woman.
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Ted Watts
Ted Watts Hah! Great quotes from John's Blog in relation to Rebecca Sugar!


"We met Rebecca Sugar, an animation student with crazy talent and I will link to her site later to make all the rest of you young cartoonist buggers sick with envy.Why all of a sudden are all the girls the best cartoonists?? Maybe because all the guys are now drawing in that faggy Cal Arts flat phony ass Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network style."
And bonus: it's got this quote about Katie Rice: ""Katie Goddess Rice was there drawing the world's cutest girls for everybody and taking photos of the best comicon bodies-maybe she'll let me post them here so you can see all the perfect flesh that was created in God's image."

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Marianna Hersko Fuck that guy
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Brett Gee I loved Ren and Stimpy, but that guy is a Creep with a capital CREEP
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Michel Magnan Wait a sec.....I read that letter. It was Prime advice...pretty much the same as I've given when talking with young artists.
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Anthony DiPaola I don't understand, what's wrong with it? If you were being sincere about him offering inspirational advice, then I agree.
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Sérgio Gonçalves Nothing is wrong with the letter per se. I believe that he offers inspirational advice in this letter, and that it's worth a read for that reason. The other, unsavory aspects of his life story that have been discussed here are a pity and a travesty. They will forever tarnish his legacy. But then that's nothing compared to what his victims suffered.
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Chris Etrata The last comment about "our cartoons' is egotistical as f***
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Vincent EL
Vincent EL Plenty of people have given inspirational advice who weren't massive creeps. Plenty of people have drawn funny cartoons. Why do people insist on continuing to lift this guy up?
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Jeanne Brooks Vocke He's a creep no doubt. Guess some people can't let go of their fondness for him, and want others to see what they still see themselves. I'd be lying myself by insisting this letter wasn't nice of him. But, Cosby, and Michael Jackson have also done man…See More
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Chuck Thompson Jeanne Brooks Vocke sometimes I feel like people like this loudly broadcast when they’re doing nice things as a smokescreen. Like the guy from the band Crystal Castles would donate all the proceeds from his albums to feminist causes but was a similar sex creep to John K. grooming young girls.
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Jeanne Brooks Vocke Possibly, Chuck. Still, those who know how to rationalize would know that even if one had done many little acts of kindness or charity, it still wouldn't be able to outweigh something that was so disturbing and selfish.
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Julie Esris And of course he talks seriously to a young boy but with the girl he flatters and grooms.
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Robert Headley I realised that I only like ten and stimpy when camp was involved.
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John K: "Remind me to tell you my stories about hanging out with Michael sometime. " (The filename on the photo as uploaded to blogger was "mybestfriend+copy.jpg"
https://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/07/beautiful-people-23.html

John K: "What Pee Boners Are For-starring Slab 'N' Ernie-Michael Jackson's favorite cartoon!"
https://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/05/john-k-retrospective-may-28-santa.html

Exclaim.ca: "What has been your strangest celebrity encounter?"
John K: "Michael Jackson. Michael's handlers arranged a meeting with Michael and me at Neverland. This went on for months and months and months until finally it happened. The deal was that Michael wanted to start a family network: The Michael Jackson Family Network - but real family entertainment that both kids and adults loved. Michael loved my cartoons because kids and adults loved Ren & Stimpy. You see, when you put "family" in front of entertainment, it is generally everything but. My animation partner Kevin and I went to Neverland and waited for a while. You see, Michael really likes to build suspense. The other weird thing about Neverland - it has a lot of fake people all around: a fake butler and maid and fake kids on couches and such. But the real treat of Neverland was the paintings on the wall. One was a painting of Michael holding hands with kids of every race walking down the Yellow Brick Road to the Emerald City. Another one was of Michael as Joan of Arc. And these paintings must have cost a ton of money. Eventually someone came and got us and brought us into a room with a bunch of guys with dark hair and big brown eyes. All of these guys had all met Michael when they were really young and they all were going to be executives in this new network. Michael eventually showed up in the room wearing pyjamas. I found out really quickly that the guys in the room where all hangers on and wanted me to animate all ideas. Michael loved the cartoons, especially the "Pee Boner" cartoon. Michael was doubled over in laughter saying that: "This guy knows what the kids want." Interestingly enough, none of the "hangers on" thought that my work was funny - it probably brought back too many traumatic childhood experiences. I will save the Steven Spielberg meeting for later."
http://exclaim.ca/comedy/article/john_kricfalusi-ren_stimpy

"According to their accounts, the superstar followed the same pattern: After gaining their trust and grooming them to be emotionally attached to him, he convinced them that what was happening was OK and scared them into not telling anyone about it.
It's an awful litany of psychological and physical violations, but the interviews with the men and their mothers, siblings and wives -- if you believe them -- help explain the overwhelming power of Jackson's charisma and influence. The accusation here is that Jackson wooed the parents with lavish shopping trips, cars and promises of career boosts for Robson and Safechuck, and won over the moms, especially, by confiding how empty his own life was.
The self-delusion of these mothers, who find ways to justify letting their sons sleep in the same bed with a grown man, is astounding. So is the ignoring of so many troubling signs. Jackson installs a fax machine into a boy's home so he can send daily affectionate messages? Well, he's lonely. Jackson spends six or seven hours on the phone talking to a boy who lives overseas? Ditto."
https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/television/2019/03/01/michael-jackson-hbo-documentary-leaving-neverland-abuse/3017256002/

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Victoria Pagac as a huge michael jackson fan i dont belive the documenty that drawing however is nightmare fuel
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Alex Rudolph Victoria Pagac Have you watched it?
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Mark Milano Victoria Pagac Did you watch the documentary?
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Maciek Kur
Maciek Kur I seen it and let me tell you it's manipulative as heck... but to be fair all documentaries are (and I speak as a person who actualy spent few good years of his live working as a documentary director)

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Alex Rudolph I couldn’t disagree with you more. Jackson and his family have been telling their story since the first allegations of child sex abuse came out in the early 90s.

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Victoria Pagac Mark Milano I have watched some of it but I have read the fbis fibdings all 300 released pages
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Alex Rudolph Victoria Pagac The FBI documents are mostly heavily-redacted collections of paperwork, files, etc. I don’t know what you got from these that led you to believe he isn’t guilty of molesting at least two children https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson
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Maciek Kur Alex Rudolph Oh, I'm sure it prove he did it. That's why the court found him guily, he was in jail and... oh, wait!
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Victoria Pagac I trust 2 grand jurys and the fbi and a not guilty veridit and if that doesn't work for you thats on you
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Alex Rudolph Maciek Kur I don’t know what to tell you. Not all guilty people go to prison, not all people in prison are guilty. We don’t live in a world that rewards and punishes people in a good/bad binary. At the very least, he slept in the same bed as a bunch of children. Draw the line where you will.
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Mark Milano Victoria Pagac You need to watch the entire documentary. I trust the two men I saw telling their stories for four hours. There’s no way they lied throughout those heartbreaking interviews. If you can’t see that, you are letting your fan worship blind you.
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Victoria Pagac
Victoria Pagac agree to disagree you have a nice day
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Mark Milano
Mark Milano Victoria Pagac Watch the entire doc - then disagree.
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Andrew Snarls
Andrew Snarls Victoria Pagac - You aren't allowed an opinion unless you watch the entire documentary and agreed with everything that's said in it because the #MeToo era demands that you believe accusers 100% of the time and every time they accuse! Even though the a…See More
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Mark Milano Andrew Snarls Yes, you're not allowed to dismiss the testimony of people who allege child abuse until you hear their entire story. If, after watching their complete interviews, you choose to disbelieve, that's your choice. But you need to give them at least the courtesy of hearing their full story before you decide.
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Andrew Snarls Mark Milano - No, I don't, because they are at this point being paid for their 'testimony', Michael Jackson cannot defend himself, and their testimony is meaningless because what's going to come of it other than disparaging Michael Jackson's reputatio…See More
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Mark Milano The court case has already been dismissed due to statute of limitations. At a minimum, they deserve a fair hearing. Their testimony is extremely credible.
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Andrew Snarls Mark Milano - They had their fair hearing at one time and they said the complete opposite of what they're saying now. It may have already been dismissed due to statute of limitations but the fact is radio stations because of the documentary have pulled…See More
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Alex Rudolph Wait, who’s getting paid?
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Mark Milano Andrew Snarls If you watch their entire interviews, they explain very clearly the pressure they were under to lie when they were still children. Accusers are often forced to lie - you need to read more about the trauma of child sexual abuse survivors.
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Andrew Snarls Mark Milano - So the accusers said one thing at one time and now they are giving an excuse as to why they lied under oath and now we should believe them because they are telling us the reallyReallyREAL truth NOW?
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Mark Milano Andrew Snarls There's no point in continuing to debate testimony you haven't seen.
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Jonathan Gies
Jonathan Gies The denialists always repeat the same handful of tired sentences.

Guys. Just stop. Please. It’s over. After 26 years it’s over. Nobody can deny this anymore. It’s too much.
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Andrew Snarls Mark Milano - Because I don't need to see it. At this point there is only money to be made off of the accusations even though Michael Jackson wasn't found guilty of nothing while he was live he's suddenly guilty now? What is there to gain with this d…See More
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Alex Rudolph Andrew Snarls If your distrust is hinging on Robson and Safechuck being paid, good news— they weren’t paid. There’s no financial benefit to coming forward, reliving your trauma in an incredibly public way, getting hounded by conspiracy theorists who believe you’re lying, regardless of what you say, etc.
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Andrew Snarls Alex Rudolph - So they weren't paid for the documentary at all and you know this how? And they aren't being paid in any other fashion due to the documentary like being on talk shows? How do you know that they aren't being paid? I see very little to g…See More
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Alex Rudolph Andrew Snarls There are other articles, but this one came up first: https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../wade-robson-james-safechuck.../ You’re so close to grasping the idea here when you say “I see very little to gain if they aren’t being paid.” They aren’t p…See More
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Andrew Snarls Alex Rudolph - But in no way does that mean they are telling the truth, you understand that right? There is a lot to be skeptical about and that is why I'm skeptical of what they are saying now. Today social activism is a currency, victimhood is a cu…See More
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Alex Rudolph Andrew Snarls You’re right, I don’t see the benefit in telling people you were repeatedly raped as a child. I don’t like in an Alex Jones world where anybody’s doing that for some imagined cultural capital.
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Andrew Snarls Alex Rudolph - Why do ignorant people like you, when somebody disagrees with you, you bring up Alex Jones or Trump as though the person you are communicating with support those people? You know nothing about me, I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, De…See More
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Alex Rudolph You can vote Democrat and still be a conspiracy theorist, i.e. two men whose stories were fact-checked for a year said they were the victims of sexual abuse and you almost literally said “follow the money.”
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Mark Milano Once again, there's no point debating a documentary with someone who refuses to watch it.
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Andrew Snarls Victoria Pagac - Gotta love these people who responded to your comment on this post only to find themselves superior by saying they can't have a debate with someone who hasn't seen the documentary, even though they are the ones who replied to you and then trolled anyone who might agree with you.....
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Victoria Pagac Andrew Snarls thank you for trying to defend my honor people can think what they want I don't wana fight with anybody ted is my friend so I felt safe to post the comment
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Mary Faught Mark Milano you mean the one sided mockumentary that even Robson's and Safechuck stories don't match the the timeline and did you know in 2005 Robson asked Michael Jackson could he get marry on Neverland to his wife awhile he on trial that's not in the movie. If you did 20 mins of research on those guys you would find out the they are liars. (They need money bad for fact Safechuck is getting sued for awhile now from family members because someone left money for the whole family when this person died. They are saying he took it all. It is public record.) You know they are in the entertainment business right? so they know how to act to fool the audiences. Now in Australia they cut out like 55 mins each of the movie before director send to them. Explain that
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[ATTEMPTED POST] Ted Watts The important thing is that we can all come together and remember that John K admitted to having a 16 year old girlfriend, and we have pictures of him at her 15th birthday party because he started grooming her when she was 14, and that whether or not Michael Jackson did what he is accused of, John K has admitted to doing approximately what Jackson is accused of (on the cheap, of course).
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Glen Banks Michael Jackson is as guilty as O.J.
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Heads I Win, Tails You Lose

This is also a problem:
http://www.intanibase.com/forum/posts/t4235-REGARDING-CERTAIN-ANIMATORS-DIRECTORS-BEING-EXPOSED-AS-SEXUAL-PREDATORS
The dictum is that the cure to bad speech is not to prohibit it, but to have more speech. That dictum is imperfect, but a culture of "one side only" is part of what kept the problem dark. Do you want to defend John K.? Make your case. Keep it civil. Do not be threatening. And don't expect anyone to agree with you. But I don't think you should be silenced for just being on what I think is the obvious wrong side of this.

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